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Marc Maron, Podcast King Unplugged - Page 2

By Anna David 07/24/12

The host of WTF is clean for nearly 13 years but he’s the first to admit that he may not have the kind of sobriety you want.

Maron preaching his gospel Dmitri von Klein

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[Laughs] Exactly.

You told CNN that you “did your graduate work” by chopping lines for Sam Kinison. Does that mean that cocaine was your drug of choice?

Cocaine, booze, I was a daily pot smoker. There are very few drugs that I haven’t tried but I never wanted to get involved with needles. I always had a deep appreciation for drug addicts who pushed the envelope of creativity and took chances with their life. As I’ve gotten older and have met some of these people, I’ve learned that this really wasn’t necessarily a plan and, in most cases, it cut their life rather short. I was never one of those people who was hung up on how drugs made you more creative—or at least that idea seems to have gone away along with my obsession to use. Because I’m better now [creatively] than I’ve ever been.

You’ve talked about Keith Richards’s memoir a lot on your show, even going so far as to say that you were reading it slowly, like it was the Bible. He’s pretty open about the fact that he doesn’t embrace sobriety. What are your thoughts on that?

Heroin’s a tough one to shake. Returning from the world of the needle seems to be a very tall order and there are two or three guys I know that used to bang dope and now drink but they don’t drink [in any kind of an] out of control [way]. They didn’t go get another drug and destroy their life with that. I don’t know what that’s about or what that means. 

Would you say that the comedy world is rife with addiction or it’s more that life is rife with addiction and there’s no more in the comedy world than anywhere else?

I think absolutely the second. This idea that high-profile junkies and alcoholics always insinuate to the general population is that musicians and artists and writers and comedians are all fucked up on drugs. But I think if you look at the numbers, they can’t be any different for plumbers or doctors or anyone else. I once took a certain pride in the fact that I was running with a group of gypsy rebels—this group that said, essentially, “We choose our life to honor our addictions”—but in retrospect, I don’t think addiction’s any more prevalent [in comedy] than it is in any other profession.

You tend to pop up in your listener’s dreams. Do you think you have a special way of penetrating the subconscious?

I think that most people that listen to me every week are getting two to three hours of content, usually through their headphones. And many people have told me they listen to me in bed. I never thought I’d help people get to sleep but I think that some people find my intensity to be a distraction. I don’t know exactly how or why, but I think being plugged directly into your head affects the subconscious. It’s not intentional. If I actually had control of that, I think I’d be a much more powerful person.

Anna David is the Executive Editor of The Fix and the author of the books Party Girl, Bought, Reality Matters, Falling For Me and Animal AttractionShe's written about sex addictiongambling addictionThomas Jane and Tom Sizemore, among many other topics, for The Fix.

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Anna David is the New York Times-bestselling author of multiple books about overcoming difficulties and coming out on the other side: the novels Party Girl (HarperCollins, 2007) and Bought (HarperCollins, 2009), the non-fiction books Reality Matters (HarperCollins, 2010), Falling for Me (HarperCollins, 2011), By Some Miracle I Made It Out of There (Simon & Schuster, 2013) and True Tales of Lust and Love and the Kindle Singles Animal Attraction (Amazon, 2012) and They Like Me, They Really Like Me (Amazon, 2013). Find Anna on LinkedIn and Twitter.

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